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@  DBMgamer : (30 July 2014 - 11:15 PM) hey Andrew we have a Destiny clan registered on Bungie.net, may help in hooking up with other clan members like we did in battlefield:  http://www.bungie.ne...n/Detail/123389
@  Andrew6679 : (30 July 2014 - 10:42 PM) If you guys ever need a player in Destiny HMU. PSN (PS4) is deaduhcamper
@  Dbl Incertion : (30 July 2014 - 09:46 PM) http://m.ign.com/art...nning-ign-first
@  Dbl Incertion : (30 July 2014 - 09:45 PM) The only bummer about his raid stuff. We have 4 or 5 friends that play. There's no LFG and it's friends only and you can only chat to people in fireteam.... Seems super constrictive for mmo.
@  dukebdfan980 : (30 July 2014 - 06:11 PM) Bar Exam is over . . . YAY!!!  Also PS Now Beta starts tomorrow.  Posted a video with details
@  DBMgamer : (30 July 2014 - 04:40 PM) So the big teamwork news is Destiny's Raid (the Vault of Glass) really needs a fireteam of 6!  I see BattleStrats rolling in an Breaking that Glass, lol
@  Michrulejj : (30 July 2014 - 02:48 PM) @DukebdFan980 Good luck on your bar exam and future in Law!  A Law school grad and a future PharmD Grad coming from Battlestrats... Not bad Haha
@  Chilli2627 : (30 July 2014 - 02:23 PM) this one too http://www.dorkly.co...-thing-was-born
@  Chilli2627 : (30 July 2014 - 02:11 PM) another funny http://joyreactor.com/post/1033420
@  Dbl Incertion : (30 July 2014 - 12:33 PM) I really don't see EA's rental service being bad. I already pay a ton to game fly. So another 2.50 for unlimited us is fine - As long as its not just lame excuse to put on old games and they don't keep their new titles blocked for a year or two.
@  Holmboy : (30 July 2014 - 08:14 AM) EA Access announced for Xbox One, Nintendo posts another big loss and The Last of Us Remastered is awesome (Duh). All that and more on VGN! - http://videogamesandnews.com
@  Dbl Incertion : (29 July 2014 - 09:46 PM) And I didn't see it's already up on vgn so..... Yep
@  Dbl Incertion : (29 July 2014 - 09:40 PM) Oh and of course it's all digital and I assume will include no dlc or things like that but that's speculation
@  Dbl Incertion : (29 July 2014 - 09:39 PM) Yep basically a EA ONLY gamefly with discounts and early access perks. Comes out to $2.50 month if you buy a whole year. Better then my $20 mo for gamefly except I get ALL games all consoles with gamefly obviously not just ea ges
@  Dbl Incertion : (29 July 2014 - 09:33 PM) Ohhhhh..... Seems like it's a ea rental game service? $30 a year or something?
@  Dbl Incertion : (29 July 2014 - 09:32 PM) Ea access members get to play ea games 5 days earlier. (Digital only) get a 10% discount and some other things. Still looking into it as was just out into beta.
@  Dbl Incertion : (29 July 2014 - 09:30 PM) Ea access hub is interesting
@  Andrew6679 : (29 July 2014 - 09:02 PM) @Dbl I wanna punch those fags so badly
@  dukebdfan980 : (29 July 2014 - 08:29 PM) thanks for the support guys, day 2 is tomorrow.  Also if you want a good laugh check out @ExamSoft on twitter.  It is the company that makes the bar exam software.  They are having significant problems and thousands of tired, angry,stressed law students across the country can't upload their exams and they are taking it out on examsoft's twitter account and its hilarious
@  DBMgamer : (29 July 2014 - 04:37 PM) Good Luck @DukebdFan980!!  and Josh I also plan on grabbing a copy of TLOU since I didn't take a break to play it
@  Dbl Incertion : (29 July 2014 - 11:29 AM) these punks have the kind of face that screams punch me repeatedly http://finance.yahoo...-155539027.html
@  Andrew6679 : (29 July 2014 - 10:04 AM) I'm getting The Last of Us! I skipped on PS3 because i didn't have a job, but now i'm so excited to play it!
@  Holmboy : (29 July 2014 - 06:53 AM) I'll be getting it today hopefully, already pre-ordered for the bonus stuff. Don't forget GameStop is offering a $25 trade-in for The Last of Us on PS3 if you upgrade to PS4.
@  Chilli2627 : (29 July 2014 - 06:39 AM) I'll get it eventually. Loved it on PS3, excited to see it on PS4. Awesome story, and the multi player deserves a play too!!
@  TheRealJoshLem : (29 July 2014 - 06:32 AM) I'm picking up The Last Of Us Remastered today since I never played it for PS3. Who else is picking it up?
@  TheRealJoshLem : (29 July 2014 - 06:31 AM) @dukebdfan980 I know all that hard work will pay off, good luck man.
@  Holmboy : (29 July 2014 - 06:15 AM) This sounds like it may be a big bag problem, lol! - https://www.youtube....h?v=Yb2y68vc81s
@  Holmboy : (29 July 2014 - 05:50 AM) Glad I didn't spoil too much for myself with the Destiny Beta, managed to get myself addicted to Guacamelee! over the weekend unexpectedly.
@  Holmboy : (29 July 2014 - 05:45 AM) @twentyONE - Dude, I was wicked scared. The weathah up here kid...Actually missed everything, I was at work but tornadoes are popping up more and more in New England.
@  dukebdfan980 : (29 July 2014 - 05:07 AM) Taking the North Carolina Bar exam today and tomorrow, wish me luck.  Prayers are greatly appreciated
@  twentyONE : (28 July 2014 - 04:38 PM) Holmboy, you had a Tornado up there?!!  "Dat's faahhkn crazy, kid!" (Marky Mark voice)
@  DBMgamer : (28 July 2014 - 03:42 PM) When Activisions marketing Onslaught of Destiny Begins I expect to see a Destiny Premium service that has all DLC's, sort of how Franchise titles work these days. The full game rumor is 32 story missions (complete with what wasn't shown in Beta so sh*t makes sense), 23 strike missions (difficulty settings and Vanguard versions), 11 pvp maps (Playstation), the one Raid map (the Vault of Glass on Venus), and 5 explorable areas (we have been on 2).  This was parsed from a Bungie Database so this is the Minimum that the game has.
@  Dbl Incertion : (28 July 2014 - 01:10 PM) Just gonna put faith in Bungie. I know they can pull off a decent game and great story. But all their marketing seems to indicate "on going story" i/e we will keep putting out new DLC content hopefully that doesn't mean the $60 vanilla game is a tiny piece of their DLC MMO puzzle.
@  Dbl Incertion : (28 July 2014 - 01:08 PM) Frankly they said something like the beta is 10% of the game and each planet has 1 general area to explore of which weve seen earth and the moon. (More to come with DLC) Im hoping im not lv 20 maxed out and bored 1 week in. Was Suprised we dont fly our own ships around in space and land ala Mass effect style - just buy a ship for cosmetics click a and watch it zoom around.
@  TheRealJoshLem : (28 July 2014 - 11:18 AM) To be clear, I am not criticizing your point of view, merely stating that you are not alone in your thought. In your shoes I would also hope I were wrong considering how much this game has been hyped. I remember how much BF4 was hyped and how many egregious errors EA made from the outset. I hope Bungie is a little smarter.
@  TheRealJoshLem : (28 July 2014 - 11:17 AM) @twentyONE, I see a lot of people online echoing your sentiments and still others saying worse things. I for one am super excited about the game because of the cooperative element of it. I'm still not super sold on the Crucible, but with more experience I think I'll come to enjoy it.
@  Dbl Incertion : (27 July 2014 - 04:22 PM) Sadly one I've been trying not to feel that way. But after a weekend of pvp and maxing all the classes all of my crew feels hmmmm meh about it. Still buying but not ground breaking experience just get. The story seems great maybe halo worthy
@  twentyONE : (27 July 2014 - 12:49 PM) Having said that, I've tempered expectations greatly. Enjoyed the beta but I can't help but feel very underwhelmed and disappointed overall. I'm very 'meh' on the weapons and maps in PvP.  Pretty 'meh' on the PvE as well and feel its going to be very repetitive/tedious. Hopefully I will feel different at launch ...
@  twentyONE : (26 July 2014 - 06:06 PM) That moon mission is freakin SWEET!
@  Dbl Incertion : (26 July 2014 - 05:19 PM) No iron banner team gameplay for you!
@  Dbl Incertion : (26 July 2014 - 05:19 PM) Not surprisingly Xbox one friends list is crashed immediately following 5pm eastern 2pm pacific I wonder what happened at that time.......
@  TheBMT : (26 July 2014 - 01:07 PM) Im probably getting the game as well.  Tho just for the 360
@  Dbl Incertion : (25 July 2014 - 10:23 PM) Also - f**king china https://gma.yahoo.co...topstories.html
@  Dbl Incertion : (25 July 2014 - 10:23 PM) BMT I'm on it a lot if you want to hang - certainly getting the game too
@  TheBMT : (25 July 2014 - 09:19 PM) Sooooo Ive been loving Destiny, even tho most of my experience has been solo.  People on the same journey as I am on missions, just is neat lol.
@  DBMgamer : (25 July 2014 - 05:30 PM) Tomorow Bungie is going to open up the Moon for 2 hours and here is the Beta test banner that you get to carry into the full game: https://lh6.googleus...apture_Beta.JPG  Just get some rounds in after 2pm PDT and its yours!
@  twentyONE : (25 July 2014 - 11:10 AM) Crucible + Music Unlimited filthy Trance custom playlist = WIN!
@  Dbl Incertion : (25 July 2014 - 07:12 AM) Yea, I've turned my KD up to about 2.0 switching to auto rifle and fusion rifle sight than. I just avoid long lines and do ok.
@  TheRealJoshLem : (24 July 2014 - 08:24 PM) Something I have learned: it is very useful to keep at least one weapon handy for ranged combat. Make sure you have at least one of the following: scout rifle, sniper rifle, rocket launcher. I love running my Titan with auto rifle, shotgun and machine gun, but against foes I want to keep at a distance I find myself wanting.
@  DBMgamer : (24 July 2014 - 05:39 PM) fyi, Destiny's Beta is open to download, no codes required, this will be Bungies real stress test
@  Holmboy : (24 July 2014 - 01:32 PM) Anyone with an Android phone, tablet or gaming device like Ouya or SHIELD needs to pick this up. Classic! - http://ow.ly/zykHr
@  Holmboy : (24 July 2014 - 01:14 PM) The Iron Banner for Destiny returns again Friday and Saturday with some earlier battles added for Europeans: http://www.bungie.ne.../News?aid=11959
@  DBMgamer : (24 July 2014 - 08:15 AM) and sadly I would like to point out that Destiny is in Beta and has Clan Pages *cough cough BF4*
@  DBMgamer : (24 July 2014 - 08:02 AM) once the full game launches it seems as a clan you can earn rewards (don't know what that would be) and our BS logo should pop up
@  DBMgamer : (24 July 2014 - 07:59 AM) @Josh, there is a Enable Clan button for each platform but no option to pull group members into clan members so you should have an option to get in the BS clan now for both Playstion members and Xbox members
@  Dbl Incertion : (24 July 2014 - 07:17 AM) Gonna research further saw some things about impact and improving that stat that gives advantage over range
@  Dbl Incertion : (24 July 2014 - 07:16 AM) Nah these are snipes or shottys they are like pulse rifles and auto rifles one burst dead. While I spam and connect with half my shots.
@  Chilli2627 : (24 July 2014 - 06:51 AM) *unless it's Iron Banner
@  Chilli2627 : (24 July 2014 - 06:51 AM) Snipers will drop you in 1 shot, so will shotguns if you let them get close enough.  It doesn't matter what weapon or gear people use in the crucible,  All damage there is the same, there is no advantage for anyone
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 09:10 PM) Dunno what I'm missing were all lv 8 with pretty decent weapons and gear but get like one shot by things in crucible left and right
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 07:10 PM) Ashame only 3 friends can play I have 5 of us that all play Biffle together
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 05:48 PM) I think we can creat alliances with our clans might do that
@  TheRealJoshLem : (23 July 2014 - 05:28 PM) To be clear, in Destiny groups and clans seem to be 2 different things. I think we have a group for Battlestrats, but no clan, unless one has been created in the past few days.
@  DBMgamer : (23 July 2014 - 05:00 PM) well Dbl we have a Destiny BattleStrats Clan if you like
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 04:57 PM) Made an Xbox One clan for destiny named Spider Monkeys for some friends and I if anyone else wants to join up that'd be cool
@  DBMgamer : (23 July 2014 - 04:42 PM) Since the group focus should be to get the Xboxers caught up I put up 2 different location vids from the Alpha and yes nothing has moved, One will get you a Deactivated ghost (Hive Knight), the other gets you a random chest in his Lair (Ogre)
@  Myelencephalous : (23 July 2014 - 02:32 PM) :Crying:
@  dukebdfan980 : (23 July 2014 - 02:05 PM) Its not an accuracy issue, the lack of ammo becomes a problem when you are fighting a tough opponent like a fallen that takes a lot to go down but doesn't drop ammo as you go.  Even with 3 people fighting a fallen everybody is almost completely out of ammo by the time it goes down.
@  cbaker96 : (23 July 2014 - 01:56 PM) I will be on tonight hoping to level up my three people and do some exploring!
@  DBMgamer : (23 July 2014 - 01:11 PM) And I am back, So I'll be up and running soon!
@  DBMgamer : (23 July 2014 - 01:10 PM) I hope to see our Xbox Brethren chime in on their thoughts on Destiny in this shoutbox
@  TheRealJoshLem : (23 July 2014 - 12:02 PM) Jeremy, I use the sniper rifle to engage a tough enemy such as a Captain or Wizard and do massive damage quickly before he can do too much damage. Your accuracy will improve with time and 14 bullets will be enough to be effective, especially if you aim for the head.
@  Myelencephalous : (23 July 2014 - 11:11 AM) the semi-auto sniper rifle is all i've used so far.  works great, but does run out of ammo a but quick.  however, it forces you to use all available resources, so i find it to be fun
@  Holmboy : (23 July 2014 - 10:59 AM) @baker - They're there just for show, they make your player nameplate look pretty. @duke -Haven't been using the Sniper Rifle in Destiny, but I get enough ammo for the Machine Gun.
@  dukebdfan980 : (23 July 2014 - 10:26 AM) Does anybody else feel like there needs to be a higher capacity to carry special ammo. 14 bullets for the sniper rifle isn't a lot against one of the fallen
@  cbaker96 : (23 July 2014 - 07:57 AM) Okay, what is the difference in emblems in Destiny for each class and what do they do?
@  Myelencephalous : (23 July 2014 - 06:58 AM) Destiny Beta was up and running as of late evening yesterday.  A small update file, and you're ready to rock and roll.
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 06:55 AM) http://news.xbox.com...izon-2-car-list
@  dukebdfan980 : (22 July 2014 - 05:42 PM) the Beta is back up for us too PS4 guys
@  Dbl Incertion : (22 July 2014 - 05:27 PM) Ohhhhh snap sticks finally the beta for destiny Xbox one is live there goes my week
@  Dbl Incertion : (22 July 2014 - 03:02 PM) I am going to go out on a limb and say EA knows Destiny will OWN through the holidays and hardline would be refreshing next year vs. this year considering there is still 1 more DLC for BF4
@  Holmboy : (22 July 2014 - 02:59 PM) Battlefield: Hardline just got postponed to 2015: http://ow.ly/zsZf9
@  Dbl Incertion : (22 July 2014 - 02:59 PM) https://movies.yahoo...-130001942.html
@  Myelencephalous : (22 July 2014 - 10:49 AM) i thought everything looked really solid and smooth.  i'm no expert, but i wouldn't have been able to tell whether it was 30 or 60
@  Holmboy : (22 July 2014 - 10:24 AM) It'll be a lot of fun getting Destiny back tomorrow, but after playing the Alpha and now this I really just want the full game so I can explore new locations and get past Level 8 finally...
@  Holmboy : (22 July 2014 - 10:21 AM) Framerate dips are the worst so a consistant 30fps is ok with me, but they need to really look into going 60fps once the engine gets optimized for Destiny 2 possibly.
@  cbaker96 : (22 July 2014 - 10:20 AM) Im starting to shake...I need destiny back! I had no issues with the 30fps, I saw LevelCap was complaining about it...
@  TheRealJoshLem : (22 July 2014 - 07:11 AM) I see people are complaining about Destiny being only 30fps. Personally I think Destiny at 30fps plays much smoother than BF4 at 60fps. I just hope reviewers don't use 30fps as an excuse to give the game a lesser rating.
@  dukebdfan980 : (22 July 2014 - 06:50 AM) Day 2 without Destiny, how you guys holding up?
@  Sylnt1 : (21 July 2014 - 04:01 PM) been too long site looks way different!
@  Sylnt1 : (21 July 2014 - 04:00 PM) Hello!
@  Holmboy : (21 July 2014 - 02:10 PM) What I'm really excited for is the return of one of my all-time favorite video game characters Abe from Abe's Oddysee to the HD-remake New 'n' Tasty. It's cross-buy and releases for PS4, PS3 & Vita tomorrow!
@  Holmboy : (21 July 2014 - 02:05 PM) Great fun with Destiny this past weekend. That "noob" Silent Obsidian stuck out his head for a bit and I managed to finish the Strike mission in crazy fashion with the help of Michrule and DiGiovanni. Boy did I love that near-death ammo perk!
@  dukebdfan980 : (21 July 2014 - 01:28 PM) Same here Baker, I got on the other night and though I would explore for a few minutes.  Next thing I know 2 hours has gone by
@  Saansilt : (21 July 2014 - 12:20 PM) So what'd I miss?
@  Myelencephalous : (21 July 2014 - 11:33 AM) I also have some extra codes if anyone's been left off the wagon
@  cbaker96 : (21 July 2014 - 11:05 AM) Seriously, I am like a drug addict...give me my beta back now man!  Puff Puff Give!
@  Myelencephalous : (21 July 2014 - 09:06 AM) finally got into the beta; made level 5 last night thanks to Jeremy's help.  See all you there on Wednesday

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#1 Jedi Wombat

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 08:14 AM

Had a thought and put it in the shoutbox but wanted to hear what you all thought....

How cool would it be if you could adjust your "Zero" or point of aim/point of impact in game? I think it would make shooting adjustments at ranges much easier, but you could only do it say when spawning or something. Has dice ever said what they use for a zero?

Anyways, maybe theres a way to graph it out, I mean if they can calculate muzzle velocity based on attatchments and how it affects bullet drop in game, I would think that this wouldnt be too hard to do. Maybe the calculations in a multi player game would smash servers from having to track all that, I dont know, just a thought.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:22 AM

I would love to see optics with adjustments, but to be honest the gameplay is too fast to use it effectively as its used in real world. Changing the zero is not a bad idea but with out a range finder it is still kinda useless.

The Mill dot scope is your best bet in the game as it allows you quickly range and sight in targets, then from there it is all trial and error and practice to get to be an expert which make it more of a challenge.

I can remember playing a hunting game on the PC years ago and had a drop chart for all the weapons. It was awesome getting the super long shots.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:27 AM

There are very accurate ballistic charts for all the weapons and ammo used in the game. If they don't already use them I can't imagine that it would be that hard to replace the data they use with the actual ballistic data. I have only played the Beta for BF3 (and watched many youtube videos) but it does not look like they include windage in the bullet travel. I would also like them to add a range finder. You don't do any real world long distance shooting with out it.
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Posted 18 October 2011 - 06:06 PM

You can do this in Red Orchestra 2. Every time you kill someone, it tells you the distance of the kill to help players learn to estimate distance, and you have distance-adjustable sights that function exactly the way their real-world counterparts did.

I'd find you an example of the adjustable scopes, too, but YouTube is being dumb for me. Sniper rifles can also use their ironsights even if there's a scope attached, just like in real life (at least, that's how it worked back then).

RO2 is a very very unforgiving non-hand-holding shooter, though. People say you can't play Battlefield like you play Call of Duty - RO is even further in that direction; you can't play RO like you play BF.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 06:28 PM

See, it can be done. As far as real life goes, firefights tend to happen pretty quickly, and aiming down sights is aiming down sights. I can look at a man sized sillouhette down range and tell how far away it is, close enough to put steel on target anyways so thats not the issue for me. Maybe just have a buddy stand against a wall in a private match as I move further and further away. Find Poa/Poi that way.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:37 PM

Ya in the old school gaming work.. DELTA FORCE 2 and DELTA FORCE BLACK HAWK DOWN. I used to be a top sniper because I could snipe from ANY point on the map and do it spot on. They had a build in rang finder in the scope its-self. You could start aiming down rang and as you moved ur scope up or down it would tell you how far u had to make the shot. But you would have to use TWO keys on the Key board to adjust your signs Up-Down or Right-Left for wind speed. Made sniping a very deadly tool in the team and you could do it very fast. But this concept is NO GOOD on PS3 or X-BOX because of the amount of keys used and the amount you have to use. Its all give and take. You would have to give up something to make the keys do other things. That will never happen. PC maybe... but not on PS3 or X-BOX. Unless they make some MAJOR changes to the sniper and when you have the scope up the button layout changes to allow it to happen. Like FRAG and Sec. FLASH turns to the range adjusters.. I dunno. Maybe someday but not today =P

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 12:55 AM

In BFBC2 and in BF3 they have a thing called marksman bonus. I am sure everyone already knows about this. But just in case the marksman bonus is a bonus you get from head shots at any distance. One point per meter your bullet travels. Very good at remembering ranges. If you have a good eye and can judge distance (yes I realize I am talking video game distances. lol ) you can figure the bullets drop and range of that from the marksman bonus and your own elevation from the target. At least that is what I use when sniping from insane distances. It is all about trial and error. Once I know the distance I can normally land hits from said range on a constant basis.
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Posted 19 October 2011 - 02:07 AM

Ya same here.. I was pulling off some awesome shots even with the 4x scope.. that quickly became my scope of choise. Just have to watch whats going on and it will get easyer to judge as u get more exp with the game.

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