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[Jedi Wombat]

Had a thought and put it in the shoutbox but wanted to hear what you all thought....

How cool would it be if you could adjust your "Zero" or point of aim/point of impact in game? I think it would make shooting adjustments at ranges much easier, but you could only do it say when spawning or something. Has dice ever said what they use for a zero?

Anyways, maybe theres a way to graph it out, I mean if they can calculate muzzle velocity based on attatchments and how it affects bullet drop in game, I would think that this wouldnt be too hard to do. Maybe the calculations in a multi player game would smash servers from having to track all that, I dont know, just a thought.

[CjHauserman]

I would love to see optics with adjustments, but to be honest the gameplay is too fast to use it effectively as its used in real world. Changing the zero is not a bad idea but with out a range finder it is still kinda useless.

The Mill dot scope is your best bet in the game as it allows you quickly range and sight in targets, then from there it is all trial and error and practice to get to be an expert which make it more of a challenge.

I can remember playing a hunting game on the PC years ago and had a drop chart for all the weapons. It was awesome getting the super long shots.

[Belmark616]

There are very accurate ballistic charts for all the weapons and ammo used in the game. If they don't already use them I can't imagine that it would be that hard to replace the data they use with the actual ballistic data. I have only played the Beta for BF3 (and watched many youtube videos) but it does not look like they include windage in the bullet travel. I would also like them to add a range finder. You don't do any real world long distance shooting with out it.

[Mister Maf]

You can do this in Red Orchestra 2. Every time you kill someone, it tells you the distance of the kill to help players learn to estimate distance, and you have distance-adjustable sights that function exactly the way their real-world counterparts did.



I'd find you an example of the adjustable scopes, too, but YouTube is being dumb for me. Sniper rifles can also use their ironsights even if there's a scope attached, just like in real life (at least, that's how it worked back then).

RO2 is a very very unforgiving non-hand-holding shooter, though. People say you can't play Battlefield like you play Call of Duty - RO is even further in that direction; you can't play RO like you play BF.

Edited by Mister Maf, 18 October 2011 - 07:27 PM.

[Jedi Wombat]

See, it can be done. As far as real life goes, firefights tend to happen pretty quickly, and aiming down sights is aiming down sights. I can look at a man sized sillouhette down range and tell how far away it is, close enough to put steel on target anyways so thats not the issue for me. Maybe just have a buddy stand against a wall in a private match as I move further and further away. Find Poa/Poi that way.

[CelticBlue]

Ya in the old school gaming work.. DELTA FORCE 2 and DELTA FORCE BLACK HAWK DOWN. I used to be a top sniper because I could snipe from ANY point on the map and do it spot on. They had a build in rang finder in the scope its-self. You could start aiming down rang and as you moved ur scope up or down it would tell you how far u had to make the shot. But you would have to use TWO keys on the Key board to adjust your signs Up-Down or Right-Left for wind speed. Made sniping a very deadly tool in the team and you could do it very fast. But this concept is NO GOOD on PS3 or X-BOX because of the amount of keys used and the amount you have to use. Its all give and take. You would have to give up something to make the keys do other things. That will never happen. PC maybe... but not on PS3 or X-BOX. Unless they make some MAJOR changes to the sniper and when you have the scope up the button layout changes to allow it to happen. Like FRAG and Sec. FLASH turns to the range adjusters.. I dunno. Maybe someday but not today =P

Edited by CelticBlue, 18 October 2011 - 09:38 PM.

[Whinterfell]

In BFBC2 and in BF3 they have a thing called marksman bonus. I am sure everyone already knows about this. But just in case the marksman bonus is a bonus you get from head shots at any distance. One point per meter your bullet travels. Very good at remembering ranges. If you have a good eye and can judge distance (yes I realize I am talking video game distances. lol ) you can figure the bullets drop and range of that from the marksman bonus and your own elevation from the target. At least that is what I use when sniping from insane distances. It is all about trial and error. Once I know the distance I can normally land hits from said range on a constant basis.

[CelticBlue]

Ya same here.. I was pulling off some awesome shots even with the 4x scope.. that quickly became my scope of choise. Just have to watch whats going on and it will get easyer to judge as u get more exp with the game.