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@  twentyONE : (25 July 2014 - 11:10 AM) Crucible + Music Unlimited filthy Trance custom playlist = WIN!
@  Dbl Incertion : (25 July 2014 - 07:12 AM) Yea, I've turned my KD up to about 2.0 switching to auto rifle and fusion rifle sight than. I just avoid long lines and do ok.
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (24 July 2014 - 08:24 PM) Something I have learned: it is very useful to keep at least one weapon handy for ranged combat. Make sure you have at least one of the following: scout rifle, sniper rifle, rocket launcher. I love running my Titan with auto rifle, shotgun and machine gun, but against foes I want to keep at a distance I find myself wanting.
@  DBMgamer : (24 July 2014 - 05:39 PM) fyi, Destiny's Beta is open to download, no codes required, this will be Bungies real stress test
@  Holmboy : (24 July 2014 - 01:32 PM) Anyone with an Android phone, tablet or gaming device like Ouya or SHIELD needs to pick this up. Classic! - http://ow.ly/zykHr
@  Holmboy : (24 July 2014 - 01:14 PM) The Iron Banner for Destiny returns again Friday and Saturday with some earlier battles added for Europeans: http://www.bungie.ne.../News?aid=11959
@  DBMgamer : (24 July 2014 - 08:15 AM) and sadly I would like to point out that Destiny is in Beta and has Clan Pages *cough cough BF4*
@  DBMgamer : (24 July 2014 - 08:02 AM) once the full game launches it seems as a clan you can earn rewards (don't know what that would be) and our BS logo should pop up
@  DBMgamer : (24 July 2014 - 07:59 AM) @Josh, there is a Enable Clan button for each platform but no option to pull group members into clan members so you should have an option to get in the BS clan now for both Playstion members and Xbox members
@  Dbl Incertion : (24 July 2014 - 07:17 AM) Gonna research further saw some things about impact and improving that stat that gives advantage over range
@  Dbl Incertion : (24 July 2014 - 07:16 AM) Nah these are snipes or shottys they are like pulse rifles and auto rifles one burst dead. While I spam and connect with half my shots.
@  Chilli2627 : (24 July 2014 - 06:51 AM) *unless it's Iron Banner
@  Chilli2627 : (24 July 2014 - 06:51 AM) Snipers will drop you in 1 shot, so will shotguns if you let them get close enough.  It doesn't matter what weapon or gear people use in the crucible,  All damage there is the same, there is no advantage for anyone
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 09:10 PM) Dunno what I'm missing were all lv 8 with pretty decent weapons and gear but get like one shot by things in crucible left and right
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 07:10 PM) Ashame only 3 friends can play I have 5 of us that all play Biffle together
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 05:48 PM) I think we can creat alliances with our clans might do that
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (23 July 2014 - 05:28 PM) To be clear, in Destiny groups and clans seem to be 2 different things. I think we have a group for Battlestrats, but no clan, unless one has been created in the past few days.
@  DBMgamer : (23 July 2014 - 05:00 PM) well Dbl we have a Destiny BattleStrats Clan if you like
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 04:57 PM) Made an Xbox One clan for destiny named Spider Monkeys for some friends and I if anyone else wants to join up that'd be cool
@  DBMgamer : (23 July 2014 - 04:42 PM) Since the group focus should be to get the Xboxers caught up I put up 2 different location vids from the Alpha and yes nothing has moved, One will get you a Deactivated ghost (Hive Knight), the other gets you a random chest in his Lair (Ogre)
@  Myelencephalous : (23 July 2014 - 02:32 PM) :Crying:
@  dukebdfan980 : (23 July 2014 - 02:05 PM) Its not an accuracy issue, the lack of ammo becomes a problem when you are fighting a tough opponent like a fallen that takes a lot to go down but doesn't drop ammo as you go.  Even with 3 people fighting a fallen everybody is almost completely out of ammo by the time it goes down.
@  cbaker96 : (23 July 2014 - 01:56 PM) I will be on tonight hoping to level up my three people and do some exploring!
@  DBMgamer : (23 July 2014 - 01:11 PM) And I am back, So I'll be up and running soon!
@  DBMgamer : (23 July 2014 - 01:10 PM) I hope to see our Xbox Brethren chime in on their thoughts on Destiny in this shoutbox
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (23 July 2014 - 12:02 PM) Jeremy, I use the sniper rifle to engage a tough enemy such as a Captain or Wizard and do massive damage quickly before he can do too much damage. Your accuracy will improve with time and 14 bullets will be enough to be effective, especially if you aim for the head.
@  Myelencephalous : (23 July 2014 - 11:11 AM) the semi-auto sniper rifle is all i've used so far.  works great, but does run out of ammo a but quick.  however, it forces you to use all available resources, so i find it to be fun
@  Holmboy : (23 July 2014 - 10:59 AM) @baker - They're there just for show, they make your player nameplate look pretty. @duke -Haven't been using the Sniper Rifle in Destiny, but I get enough ammo for the Machine Gun.
@  dukebdfan980 : (23 July 2014 - 10:26 AM) Does anybody else feel like there needs to be a higher capacity to carry special ammo. 14 bullets for the sniper rifle isn't a lot against one of the fallen
@  cbaker96 : (23 July 2014 - 07:57 AM) Okay, what is the difference in emblems in Destiny for each class and what do they do?
@  Myelencephalous : (23 July 2014 - 06:58 AM) Destiny Beta was up and running as of late evening yesterday.  A small update file, and you're ready to rock and roll.
@  Dbl Incertion : (23 July 2014 - 06:55 AM) http://news.xbox.com...izon-2-car-list
@  dukebdfan980 : (22 July 2014 - 05:42 PM) the Beta is back up for us too PS4 guys
@  Dbl Incertion : (22 July 2014 - 05:27 PM) Ohhhhh snap sticks finally the beta for destiny Xbox one is live there goes my week
@  Dbl Incertion : (22 July 2014 - 03:02 PM) I am going to go out on a limb and say EA knows Destiny will OWN through the holidays and hardline would be refreshing next year vs. this year considering there is still 1 more DLC for BF4
@  Holmboy : (22 July 2014 - 02:59 PM) Battlefield: Hardline just got postponed to 2015: http://ow.ly/zsZf9
@  Dbl Incertion : (22 July 2014 - 02:59 PM) https://movies.yahoo...-130001942.html
@  Myelencephalous : (22 July 2014 - 10:49 AM) i thought everything looked really solid and smooth.  i'm no expert, but i wouldn't have been able to tell whether it was 30 or 60
@  Holmboy : (22 July 2014 - 10:24 AM) It'll be a lot of fun getting Destiny back tomorrow, but after playing the Alpha and now this I really just want the full game so I can explore new locations and get past Level 8 finally...
@  Holmboy : (22 July 2014 - 10:21 AM) Framerate dips are the worst so a consistant 30fps is ok with me, but they need to really look into going 60fps once the engine gets optimized for Destiny 2 possibly.
@  cbaker96 : (22 July 2014 - 10:20 AM) Im starting to shake...I need destiny back! I had no issues with the 30fps, I saw LevelCap was complaining about it...
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (22 July 2014 - 07:11 AM) I see people are complaining about Destiny being only 30fps. Personally I think Destiny at 30fps plays much smoother than BF4 at 60fps. I just hope reviewers don't use 30fps as an excuse to give the game a lesser rating.
@  dukebdfan980 : (22 July 2014 - 06:50 AM) Day 2 without Destiny, how you guys holding up?
@  Sylnt1 : (21 July 2014 - 04:01 PM) been too long site looks way different!
@  Sylnt1 : (21 July 2014 - 04:00 PM) Hello!
@  Holmboy : (21 July 2014 - 02:10 PM) What I'm really excited for is the return of one of my all-time favorite video game characters Abe from Abe's Oddysee to the HD-remake New 'n' Tasty. It's cross-buy and releases for PS4, PS3 & Vita tomorrow!
@  Holmboy : (21 July 2014 - 02:05 PM) Great fun with Destiny this past weekend. That "noob" Silent Obsidian stuck out his head for a bit and I managed to finish the Strike mission in crazy fashion with the help of Michrule and DiGiovanni. Boy did I love that near-death ammo perk!
@  dukebdfan980 : (21 July 2014 - 01:28 PM) Same here Baker, I got on the other night and though I would explore for a few minutes.  Next thing I know 2 hours has gone by
@  Saansilt : (21 July 2014 - 12:20 PM) So what'd I miss?
@  Myelencephalous : (21 July 2014 - 11:33 AM) I also have some extra codes if anyone's been left off the wagon
@  cbaker96 : (21 July 2014 - 11:05 AM) Seriously, I am like a drug addict...give me my beta back now man!  Puff Puff Give!
@  Myelencephalous : (21 July 2014 - 09:06 AM) finally got into the beta; made level 5 last night thanks to Jeremy's help.  See all you there on Wednesday
@  DBMgamer : (20 July 2014 - 08:38 PM) Wednesday I am stuck on my phone till then
@  DBMgamer : (20 July 2014 - 08:36 PM) Yeah I'd rather use it than not even on one guy if he surprised you, and Josh I will look at the bungie.net site when I get back home from the lake wend at
@  Chilli2627 : (20 July 2014 - 05:17 PM) @twentyone, I gotta disagree with saving special ability and grenades, they both recharge, and fairly quickly I say USE THEM!
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (20 July 2014 - 04:57 PM) Also, the Bungie site seems to think I'm not in a clan, yet I got the notification that Gamer accepted me into the clan.
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (20 July 2014 - 04:56 PM) I haven't really gotten a good idea for how accurate hip fire is. It's much more accurate than in BF4 but so far it seems not to be accurate enough to be used at anything but close quarters.
@  twentyONE : (20 July 2014 - 04:47 PM) Tip: crouching makes you invisible to radar...also, get good at hip-firing while strafing. Save grenades and powers for multiple enemies or being outnumbered.  The Crucible (similar to Halo) is a "ballet" of sprinting, sliding, jumping, melee, crouch-walking, grenades & powers. Movement/feel/flow will become second nature with time as expected.
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (20 July 2014 - 04:46 PM) @Chilli, I had a few solid Iron Banner rounds earlier without using heavy ammo at all. I'll look for it next time.
@  Chilli2627 : (20 July 2014 - 01:56 PM) I have success in the cricible snatching up all the heavy ammo and use a heavy MG. It surprises me how much the heavy ammo gets overlooked. Went 30-6 last night with over 6k score
@  wojo10 : (20 July 2014 - 09:58 AM) Just waiting to hear back from some people if not I'll pass them along to you Gamer.
@  DBMgamer : (20 July 2014 - 06:44 AM) Wojo I can give them away pretty easily if you want
@  DBMgamer : (20 July 2014 - 06:43 AM) yeah i noticed a delay as well such as Melee a guy and he dies almost a full second later, Hopefully they tighten that up
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (20 July 2014 - 06:32 AM) Gamer, I have painfully realized that over the past two days. There's also the occasional case of lag; shooting a guy in the face with a shotgun and he dies half a second later, that kind of thing. It's just something I'm gonna have to get used to I guess.
@  wojo10 : (20 July 2014 - 05:03 AM) That's for PS4
@  wojo10 : (20 July 2014 - 05:02 AM) Does anyone need a Destiny code? I received some extras.
@  DBMgamer : (19 July 2014 - 10:43 PM) Josh you have to remember that there is no moving spread like we are used to, but head glitching works like a charm
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (19 July 2014 - 09:25 PM) I cannot for the life of me figure out how to succeed in the Crucible. No matter how well my tactics are or how well my aim is I'm always outgunned by guys running around like chickens with their heads cut off. My rage builds with every second spend in the Crucible.
@  Dbl Incertion : (19 July 2014 - 07:11 PM) http://t.joystiq.com...-free-anymore#1
@  Michrulejj : (19 July 2014 - 10:32 AM) And 70% on the Beta started last night at around 11PM... It's 12:32 now Lol
@  Michrulejj : (19 July 2014 - 10:31 AM) I applied for it, I hope I do because I hate to say it it's looking better than Drive Club.  You can't customize cars on Drive CLub at all and the crew has insane amounts
@  DBMgamer : (19 July 2014 - 07:41 AM) Any of you PC guys getting into the Crew Beta?
@  Dbl Incertion : (18 July 2014 - 10:13 PM) I know!! So funny it's our new catch phrase like something from Mike Myers.... Still laughing.
@  DBMgamer : (18 July 2014 - 04:36 PM) Dbl, I was good till the "Shark" appeared lolol
@  twentyONE : (18 July 2014 - 02:23 PM) @Josh -  Dude, I hear you!  I never used it in the Alpha but, wow, I love watching the enemies go flying back from the force of the impact!
@  Chilli2627 : (18 July 2014 - 01:58 PM) Wanna see it?? LOL
@  Dbl Incertion : (18 July 2014 - 01:26 PM) My friends and I have laughed extensively at this. Thought I'd share the silly. https://www.youtube....h?v=6mg-2Y3e0-I
@  Mister Maf : (18 July 2014 - 12:11 PM) If anyone's in the market for Wolfenstein: The New Order, it's already half off on Steam for Quakecon.
@  Holmboy : (18 July 2014 - 10:24 AM) It was nice last year when EA released the Madden Aniversarry Edition for $99 and it included PC streaming of Sunday Ticket.
@  Dbl Incertion : (18 July 2014 - 09:19 AM) Yeah that Sunday ticket keeps getting crazier I pay already like $175 mo for my direct tv before all that shenanigans
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (18 July 2014 - 09:15 AM) I...freaking...LOVE...the hand cannons!
@  cbaker96 : (18 July 2014 - 06:58 AM) Seriously, BF4 pales in comparison to this Beta...so sad!  I had such a blast just starting the game!
@  cbaker96 : (18 July 2014 - 06:57 AM) I was able to get it loaded and played a little late last night.  I will be on late agin tonight but I will be on longer!
@  Holmboy : (18 July 2014 - 06:57 AM) NFL Sunday Ticket is $240 for the season to stream on your console. Ouch! Now I have to do some serious "Bar Math"  :beer:
@  DBMgamer : (18 July 2014 - 06:24 AM) In all honesty tho I wonder how much traffic on PSN the Beta Download generated yesterday, i would think alot
@  DBMgamer : (18 July 2014 - 06:21 AM) U should have seen how bad it was for the first 2 hours after 1pm.  I was Lucky, to get it started in the first 20 mins, and it was a fight to get it.... whats my $50PS+ being used for again   :Winking:
@  Holmboy : (18 July 2014 - 05:39 AM) Last night's Destiny action was fun, hopefully tonight I'll have more time to really explore instead of trying to stay awake while leveling up. Was absolutely shocked the PSN was up and that it only took me 25 minutes to download.
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 03:36 PM) and a few  more that bungie won't talk about
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 03:36 PM) there are more classes of Baddies tho, the Vex = Robots, Cabals = giant baddies
@  Chilli2627 : (17 July 2014 - 03:13 PM) the enemy classes are a bit similar to Halo I think Fallen = Covenent   Hive = Flood. Or maybe I'm just crazy
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 03:09 PM) same here + I still have an unregistered code
@  dukebdfan980 : (17 July 2014 - 03:04 PM) i have two more codes for the beta if anybody wants one
@  cbaker96 : (17 July 2014 - 02:49 PM) @ 14GB the beta will cost me more than the actual game will in download fees!
@  cbaker96 : (17 July 2014 - 02:48 PM) That was a great comic!
@  Holmboy : (17 July 2014 - 01:33 PM) LOL, that was an awesome comic!
@  Chilli2627 : (17 July 2014 - 01:29 PM) http://weknowmemes.c...tes-these-days/
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 01:10 PM) I thought having to download the main part after launching the game was another of just staggering the server load
@  twentyONE : (17 July 2014 - 12:59 PM) You can't re-load anyway because you have to start the download from within the game. It's only the initial 12.3 GB and no more .....I am in the Cosmodrome and just about ready to start.  It baffles me that there was/is no pre-loading for something this big and important.
@  Holmboy : (17 July 2014 - 12:33 PM) The PSN Store says the download is 12.3GB, I didn't get an email but I checked my Bungie account and the keys were there. PSN website is down so I can't pre-load. D'oh!
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 12:27 PM) same here at 25% now, I thought there was another 2gb that I can't account for, cause ATM we are sitting aroun 12gb total and its supposed to be 14 and half
@  twentyONE : (17 July 2014 - 12:19 PM) Fortunately I got my keys from Bungie and was able to start my download before PSN went down.  I fully expect it to be mostly unplayable for today/tonight anyway.  Will report back after I play for awhile .
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 12:14 PM) got through! you get a nice slide show while you wait for the file :score:
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 12:06 PM) yeah I am stuck at that step the PSN won't stay up, but at least I can look at this:  https://lh4.googleus...-h709-no/14 - 1
@  cbaker96 : (17 July 2014 - 12:02 PM) 11G? Thats going to blow my data plan!
@  twentyONE : (17 July 2014 - 11:17 AM) FYI:  you will download 2 small, quick files and install.  Then you launch the game and are prompted to download the actual beta @11GB
@  Holmboy : (17 July 2014 - 10:58 AM) It has begun!!!
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 10:14 AM) alright one hour to go!  http://youtu.be/9jK-NcRmVcw
@  twentyONE : (17 July 2014 - 10:11 AM) So I am going to TRY and limit myself to PvP and Free Roam only (try is the key word here).  I may breakdown and do the strike mission(s) but am definitely saving the story missions for September.  Warlock will be my go to - especially in PvP - because I LOVE the "jetpack" jump (I miss Reach's jetpack).  Looking forward to trying out the other classes though!
@  Holmboy : (17 July 2014 - 09:04 AM) Hmmm, I thought it was a Borderlands/Halo ripoff that everyone won't shut up about. Just Kidding! :Love Struck:
@  Chilli2627 : (17 July 2014 - 08:58 AM) des·ti·ny [des-tuh-nee] noun, plural des·ti·nies. 1. something that is to happen or has happened to a particular person or thing; lot or fortune. 2. the predetermined, usually inevitable or irresistible, course of events. 3. the power or agency that determines the course of events. 4. ( initial capital letter ) this power personified or represented as a goddess. 5. the Destinies, the Fates.
@  Holmboy : (17 July 2014 - 08:57 AM) IGN is streaming the Destiny Beta LIVE! - https://www.youtube....h?v=vR0XkVzPpmA
@  Holmboy : (17 July 2014 - 08:31 AM) What's Destiny?
@  dukebdfan980 : (17 July 2014 - 07:54 AM) its Destiny Day
@  DBMgamer : (17 July 2014 - 06:09 AM) After the Apha, this is due, I'll make a few post to get the fun started
@  Holmboy : (17 July 2014 - 05:59 AM) I made a new Destiny forum below under "Hottest Games". We all know this game is going to be huge, especially in the BattleStrats community so feel free to post away!
@  DBMgamer : (16 July 2014 - 06:57 PM) In case we need Beta launch times:  https://lh5.googleus...-h541-no/14 - 1
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (16 July 2014 - 06:42 PM) Maybe we can sort that out in the party chat. I have to get used to it since I missed out on the alpha.
@  dukebdfan980 : (16 July 2014 - 05:58 PM) we are going to have to divide ourselves into groups of threes, then come together to play multiplayer
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (16 July 2014 - 05:41 PM) My wife suggested we have dinner earlier in the day so I could play with you guys. Still, I'll be on later in the evening.
@  DBMgamer : (16 July 2014 - 04:46 PM) should be on around 8 or 9pm
@  wojo10 : (16 July 2014 - 03:42 PM) I'll be on sometime after six tomorrow with a cold beer and a grin on.
@  dukebdfan980 : (16 July 2014 - 12:54 PM) I will definitely be on tomorrow night
@  Myelencephalous : (16 July 2014 - 12:18 PM) i got the eye roll AND the neck roll.  It was a combo move unseen since the days of Street Fighter
@  Myelencephalous : (16 July 2014 - 12:13 PM) My wife will not be a part of my day tomorrow.  She's already been served her notice, lol
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (16 July 2014 - 11:58 AM) My wife and I are going on a two-month anniversary date tomorrow night, but I should be online when I am not out with her!
@  Myelencephalous : (16 July 2014 - 11:57 AM) come to think of it, i have a 11am tee time.  so beer will be tasted then.  i should be back for the 1pm launch and will share a liquid lunch with whomever is on
@  Myelencephalous : (16 July 2014 - 11:52 AM) well, around here, one does not need to leave home for a beer tasting :)
@  Holmboy : (16 July 2014 - 11:03 AM) So who's playing the Destiny Beta tomorrow? I have a beer tasting to attend, but will be online ready to play around 9:30pm. Will be pre-loading once I see it popup on the PS Store, you can redeem your Beta Keys online, just don't forget to leave your PS4 on standby. Hope to see you there!
@  Holmboy : (16 July 2014 - 10:45 AM) Posted some more Destiny Videos below from IGN, they have exclusive access to the Beta already and are spilling the beans!
@  Holmboy : (16 July 2014 - 10:43 AM) I totally forgot Diablo III was coming to PS4 in August, that's going to have awesome 4-player Co-op local or online.
@  Myelencephalous : (16 July 2014 - 08:31 AM) i read that destiny can be pre-loaded with a digital copy; is that the only way?  or can i use my code on the receipt from GameStop to load it tonight?
@  Myelencephalous : (16 July 2014 - 08:10 AM) OK, so it's a rare day that I can crack the code of my company's IT department and sneak through WebSense to watch all your guys' videos while I'm at work.  But it really sucks on this website that I can only see the left hand side of the video, because the right side is visually blocked by the 'Videos from Gamplay' menu.  Admins, please fix!!!!
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (16 July 2014 - 05:17 AM) Latest joke meaning BF4 in general or Dragon's Teeth?
@  wojo10 : (16 July 2014 - 03:59 AM) After this latest joke from BF4 I can't wait for Destiny
@  DBMgamer : (16 July 2014 - 12:10 AM) Ok, the Bungie site is revamped so I took one of my better post and put it in my blog:  http://www.battlestr...me-and-destiny/
@  twentyONE : (15 July 2014 - 08:00 PM) I got some crazy new dog tag "4th level participant" that is a white "key" card with a QR scan.  Printed at the bottom are:  20131029   12:00:00  &  21420612   17:00:00
@  Dbl Incertion : (15 July 2014 - 07:35 PM) New maps and game modes are fun.... Just feels like each expansion removes more destruction...
@  twentyONE : (15 July 2014 - 05:14 PM) LOVE the new maps & the epic infantry battle lines - especially in 'chain link' which I'm glad is only 32 players.  The infantry focus and map design are a welcome change for sure.  As expected there was a bit of rubber banding but nothing too bad.
@  Holmboy : (15 July 2014 - 03:37 PM) Dragon's Teeth DLC for BF4 is 6.7GB and live on PSN.
@  Myelencephalous : (15 July 2014 - 12:15 PM) Josh, my prediction is that you will reinstate BF4 for the remainder of its tenure.  Because there is no Battlefield without J-Squad.
@  JoshLemTheAspie : (15 July 2014 - 10:45 AM) And may become the "F" team, the F here pertaining to report cards.
@  Holmboy : (15 July 2014 - 09:12 AM) Dragon's Teeth and Final Stand are both being developed by DICE's LA Studio, or the "B-Team" as I like to call it.
@  Dbl Incertion : (15 July 2014 - 08:48 AM) Lastly a friend brought up he said he saw something about MICROTRANSACTIONS in hardline about buying cash. Considering visceral fucked up dead space 3 with them I wouldn't be surprised... Though I really hope not. Pay to win battlepacks and shortcuts are bad enough but at least they waited like 6-8 months before adding that sh*t. Sorry wall of text. I'm hopped up on fruity pebbles!!!
@  Dbl Incertion : (15 July 2014 - 08:46 AM) I will say though Naval Assault maps are my favorite!
@  Dbl Incertion : (15 July 2014 - 08:45 AM) I believe naval assault and dragons and the final dlc are all Viscerals work.... Not sure what those connotations imply for hardline
@  Holmboy : (15 July 2014 - 05:38 AM) I'll login tonight and try it out, but my fuse is already short with DICE so we'll see. :I Dont Know:

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Battlefield 4-ready PC in under $700: Maf's (Semi-)Budget Build

Posted by Mister Maf, 21 September 2013 · 3,324 views

With the Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and now, apparently, the long-rumored Steam Box looming just over the horizon, the average system requirements for AAA PC games is about to spike. Whether you're looking stay in the game, or just need to update an old toaster, right now is a great time to look at a new PC build.

The new consoles are going to be based on existing technology from Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD). Their Piledriver-based processors and Graphics Core Next-based video cards have been around for a little while, and their prices have adjusted southward over time accordingly. With that in mind, the computer I will present to you will be AMD-powered.

  • Small case. At only 16.4 inches tall, it's no handheld LAN party box, but as far as gaming computers go, this isn't big by any stretch of the imagination. How can this be a good thing? With Valve's Steam Box release, expect to see much more controller support for big games. Fit this in your living room next to the television stand and fire up Steam's Big Picture Mode.
  • 1080p gaming with the HD 7790. This little monster of a GPU uses a slightly modified version of the GCN 2.0 architecture that powers the rest of the 7000 series and the next consoles. The results speak for themselves.
  • Trusted brands in the hardware industry. You won't find any knockoff or cheaply-made products inside this machine. It's all the real deal.
  • DirectX 11.2 with Windows 8. I know, I know, Windows 8 is the scourge of the devil, but it's the future, whether we like it or not. Previous iterations of Windows are being intentionally locked out of the newest graphical features, so 8 is the way to go from here on out. Besides, it boots faster.
  • The price is right. A new Xbox One will run you $500, then $60 every year to play online, and you can't even use it for anything except what Microsoft says you can use it for. This isn't just a gaming machine, but it's your computer, too. A two-in-one wombo-combo-deal powerhouse for under $700. Factor in frequent and fantastic discounts on digitally-distributed games, and this is a long-term, low-cost investment. Additionally, there will be sales later in the year - namely, holiday sales - that will knock down the price of this or a comparable build considerably.
  • Upgrade flexibility - AMD makes a point of backwards-compatibility in their processors, so the AM3+ socket used by the FX-6300 is sure to fit new processors later down the line.  A respectably strong power supply also allows for graphics upgrades as requirements rise.
So, are you ready to hear what this girl's got in her? Here she is:

AMD FX-6300 @ 3.5 GHz - $120
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This hex-core CPU isn't the most powerful thing on the market, but for its price, it does its job. The X1/PS4 both have a high number of cores, so it's best to be prepared for the multicore optimizations that are sure to come. For most games, the graphical processor (GPU) is more important than the CPU, so this is more than enough.

Graphics Card
PowerColor AX7790 1 GB - $120 - $20 MIR = $100
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This little guy is the centerpiece of this build. At an incredibly low $100, the HD 7790 can run Battlefield 3 at 1080p and ultra settings WITH antialiasing at an average of 53 frames per second. Check out the benchmarks here.

Corsair 8 GB DDR3 @ 1333 MHz - $70
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There's not much to say about this one. It's RAM, it's 8 gigabytes, it runs at 1333 megahertz. You don't need any fancy heat spreaders or other whatsits that make it look pretty. If you don't plan on overclocking your RAM, this is literally all you need. It's the same amount as is in the X1 and the PS4, and it's what I've used for years. Note that the price for the time being is driven up because of a major manufacturing plant burning down.

Hard Drive
Western Digital Blue 750 GB, 7200 RPM, 6.0 GB/s - $80
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Pretty stock and solid stuff, here. It's not quite a terabyte, but unless you download a lot of HD pornography, it should be plenty. It has all of today's standard features of a relatively high-end traditional disk drive.

GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 - $110
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Eight USB 2.0 ports and two USB 3.0 ports in the back and Realtek audio along with a PCIe 2.0 x16 expansion card slot for maximum bandwidth for your graphics card makes this a pretty easy option to take at this price. Just don't try to overclock on it; budget boards can't always handle the voltage.

Power Supply
Thermaltake SMART Series, 650W, 80+ Bronze - $60
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I've said it a hundred times and I'll say it some more: having a quality power supply with adequate voltage and wattage is essential for the health, safety, and normal operation of your computer. Thermaltake is, relatively speaking, new to the PSU market, but they've had enough time to work out the kinks. At 650 watts with 80%+ efficiency certification, this fits the bill. The CPU is rated for 95W and the GPU uses 250W under load, so there is a safe amount of headroom.

Cooler Master Hyper TX3 - $20 - $5 MIR = 15
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Simple, time-tested. It's popular for a good reason: it works and it doesn't cost a lot.

DIYPC FM08-W - $23
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Granted, this case squeezes in with a heavy discount, but it's a solid one. One can easily get by with a case that goes for $20 normal price, but why should you? This guy has front USB and audio ports and dust-filtered case fans for air flow (very important in small setups). Unanimous love in purchase reviews. Its small size for a mid tower case helps it fit into the living room hooked up to an Xbox controller for those who wish to use it that way.

Operating System
Windows 8 Home 64-bit - OEM copy - $96
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Check out that 2.5 stars user rating. It's no secret that Windows 8 isn't very popular, but moving forward, it's the platform that Microsoft will be updating DirectX (the suite of multimedia APIs that games run on) on.

  • DVD R/W drive - $20 - growing less and less relevant these days, but you can grab one with your HD 7790's mail-in rebate.
  • Hold out on Windows 8 - $91 - save a couple bucks now by getting Windows 7 instead while you wait for Microsoft to release a proper operating system.
And there she is, weighing in at $674, including the MIRs and not counting the options. If you happen to have a copy of Windows lying around, and perhaps re-use an old hard drive, you can get the system down to under $500. Again, keep in mind: most of these items are not on sale right now, and will be on sale at a later date, namely December.

Additionally, the price of RAM has been driven up dramatically lately due to a fire burning down a major manufacturer plant in China. Once normal operation resumes, expect to see the prices on memory lower back to sane levels. Even still, powerful computers are more affordable than ever. Take another look at the HD 7790's review to prove it if you need to, because it's the biggest indicator of how this machine will run: http://www.anandtech...top-sea-islands

I hope you found this writeup useful, informative, inspirational, and/or some other positive reaction. Thanks for reading.

-Mister Maf, resident BattleStrats hardware head

Nice - Be sure you post this up in the PC forum also

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Great stuff, but I gotta admit I hate your video card selection. For a "BF4-Ready" machine, that thing is woefully underpowered.

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Great stuff, but I gotta admit I hate your video card selection. For a "BF4-Ready" machine, that thing is woefully underpowered.

I didn't say "run it at super mega max grafix on 4k monitors". It should handle the game on medium at the least, probably a bit more.  Don't underestimate the 7790.

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Great stuff, but I gotta admit I hate your video card selection. For a "BF4-Ready" machine, that thing is woefully underpowered.

I didn't say "run it at super mega max grafix on 4k monitors". It should handle the game on medium at the least, probably a bit more.  Don't underestimate the 7790.

And I'm not saying get a Titan, you are building a "Budget Box" to compete with upcoming consoles. I just think for another $25-$50, you can get a 7850 with 2GB and a 256-bit bus to give a boost to some demanding future titles like BF4.

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