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@  Chilli2627 : (22 September 2014 - 02:21 PM) VVV ouch!! VVV
@  Myelencephalous : (22 September 2014 - 02:13 PM) New name:  Adrian Peter.  Because he already dropped his son.
@  Myelencephalous : (22 September 2014 - 02:10 PM) How do the Destiny makers organize a party?  They planet!
@  Dbl Incertion : (22 September 2014 - 12:10 AM) Wonder where bungies responses to the game are. Back during halo days bungie was the BEST because of community interaction. I'm waiting to get the lowdown from them on what they're gonna do about loot engram garbage, strikes, pvp balance anything really.
@  twentyONE : (21 September 2014 - 08:02 PM) Rocky responds with an all-time classic and the ultimate 80's cliche: "Go for it!"
@  Myelencephalous : (21 September 2014 - 04:04 PM) Holmboy, what does Drago say to Rocky?  "I vill crush you".  And so goes this week's fantasy  :Devil:
@  Myelencephalous : (19 September 2014 - 09:18 AM) and Chilli, your entire team is going to be on the injured list by Monday night :Dont Tell Anyone: .  So zip it
@  Myelencephalous : (19 September 2014 - 09:16 AM) nuts on your face, to be exact
@  Holmboy : (19 September 2014 - 05:49 AM) Well, it was a pretty close matchup until Julio Jones went nuts last night...  :Hurt:
@  kubucjuszowy : (19 September 2014 - 01:52 AM) @Myelencephalous yeha. looks like ATL helped you a lot yesterday! I am not so happy about team and RB's are my biggest problem.. I twill be interestin FF season!  :toot:
@  Chilli2627 : (18 September 2014 - 06:42 PM) ehem 2-0.............
@  Myelencephalous : (18 September 2014 - 12:38 PM) You're already projected to lose, son. :Laughing Rolling On Ground:
@  Holmboy : (18 September 2014 - 08:29 AM) LOL @Kuba - NEVER!!! All your RB are belong to us! Doing pretty poor in Fantasy Football so far, but this weekend I'm disciplining Myelencephalous, Adrian Peterson style! :chair:
@  Holmboy : (18 September 2014 - 08:12 AM) Haven't played Detiny much since last week, it was becoming way too repetitive for me. The story is bleh and the diversity of planets just fell flat. It wholly deserves the reviews it is getting. The gameplay is solid especially with friends so I should be getting back into it this weekend.
@  Dbl Incertion : (17 September 2014 - 11:19 PM) Nov 11 and Nov 18 are gonna be very expensive weekends for me. Farcry 4, ass creeds, gta v halo master dragon age.... Yeah plus mordor in 2 weeks
@  TheBMT : (17 September 2014 - 08:31 PM) Tbh... Id love a Destiny type game for the Mass Effect series.  The PVE in ME3 was just a tease to what could be.
@  twentyONE : (17 September 2014 - 05:50 PM) I have to admit that I am enjoying Destiny much more than I thought I would...especially the PvP.  Yes the missions are repetitive and there isn't much replay factor for me but overall I am really enjoying it.  Although, how long I and many others stick around for the PvP remains to be seen.
@  DBMgamer : (17 September 2014 - 03:09 PM) Hey Red I think the source of the "Destiny Derailed" reviews came from the combination of the disjointed story and the lack of content.  The gameplay is great for me personally but I don't get why Bungie sandbagged the content (there are 3 areas just on Russia we can't play yet).  I think should Polygon review it after the 2nd DLC lands and more areas of the game are accessible it would score better
@  twentyONE : (17 September 2014 - 01:30 PM) That nostalgia, that thirst: Headlong, Relic, Terminal....Rat Race, Damnation, Hang 'em High.....Avalanche, The Pit, Sandtrap....Longship, Burial Mounds, Waterworks, Valhalla....
@  kubucjuszowy : (17 September 2014 - 04:15 AM) Holmboy, give me my RB back! :)
@  DBMgamer : (16 September 2014 - 06:22 PM) Updated the Destiny Unlock codes, got 3 more free emblems
@  TheBMT : (16 September 2014 - 05:13 PM) Well I guess it was bound to happen.  In my rush to respond to messages and delete one.  I blocked communication of a friend... and have no idea how to fix it lol
@  Dbl Incertion : (16 September 2014 - 09:56 AM) Maybe in a year or two.
@  Myelencephalous : (16 September 2014 - 09:25 AM) get a PS4 dbl!
@  Dbl Incertion : (16 September 2014 - 08:40 AM) I've found it quite difficult to group up. Missed out on the weekly strike due to only having 1 friend still playing.
@  TheBMT : (16 September 2014 - 08:29 AM) Does anybody see any similarities with Destiny to the game Too Human?
@  TheBMT : (16 September 2014 - 08:25 AM) haha, I havent had any one to play with the entire time.  It has been challenging, but ive been lucky so far. First time with the Vex was like "f*ck ME"
@  Myelencephalous : (16 September 2014 - 07:28 AM) @BMT, you will now realize how difficult the game gets if you don't have friends to play with that are at the same level!
@  TheBMT : (15 September 2014 - 10:12 PM) kinda enjoy ranking up to 20 prior to continuing the missions too much in the story.  Feel more like a proper guardian.
@  TheBMT : (15 September 2014 - 10:11 PM) I just now hit Venus in Destiny after hitting lvl 20.  Having the extra difficulties unlocked is a nice addition for doing it solo.
@  Myelencephalous : (15 September 2014 - 10:12 AM) I shot this vid yesterday for all the train lovers - one of the largest steam engines in the country; it creates a mild earthquake as it passes and was setting off car alarms  https://www.youtube....h?v=aa5kBWk01xE
@  Myelencephalous : (15 September 2014 - 09:58 AM) coooool  https://www.youtube....h?v=dVGaIJEGZSI
@  TheBMT : (14 September 2014 - 06:06 AM) I didnt really get over hyped for destiny, tho I think I was just hyped in general to get my hands on a new Bungie game.
@  Dbl Incertion : (14 September 2014 - 01:18 AM) I'm gonna agree - ryse, watch dogs, destiny,  wolfenstein, and others have just been .... Average. I'm hoping shadows of mordor is good. Especially since it's not been over hyped. Also IM LOOKING AT YOU HALO 1-4 Xbox one collection!!! That's gonna be sweet. +gta V
@  Andrew6679 : (13 September 2014 - 09:42 PM) I feel like the hype games get now days is just too high for them to meet. It's devistating to games and their sales.
@  Andrew6679 : (13 September 2014 - 09:26 PM) Ouch. This isn't what I wanted to hear. Well alright.
@  Dbl Incertion : (13 September 2014 - 07:03 PM) Fun for a short while particularly just because it's new but that wears off the 7th missions that's cut/pasted. Multiplayer is imbalanced like crazy and strikes are fun once or twice.  Overall playing it because nothing else out yet I want to touch.
@  THE RED DRAGON : (13 September 2014 - 06:05 PM) It's growing on me - but i'll be rdy to move on as soon as the next game hits.  Its fun to play something new and its a lot better with friends.  Not GOTY
@  Andrew6679 : (13 September 2014 - 12:11 PM) How did Destiny turn out eveyone? I have been trying to isolate myself from it since i had to cancel my order.
@  Chilli2627 : (12 September 2014 - 12:25 PM) art of the instakill  http://youtu.be/QwNVQvygCNQ
@  Dbl Incertion : (12 September 2014 - 11:24 AM) 3 buddies bought the game already down to 1 friend left playing it.. . f**king blows...
@  Dbl Incertion : (12 September 2014 - 11:23 AM) Man.... Why is destiny just Peter Dinklage opening locks and doors and us fighting off waves of enemies. .. . . And why is every boss fight a "Hey look over here while 2 other guys shoot you in the balls" .... =-(

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Battlefield 4-ready PC in under $700: Maf's (Semi-)Budget Build

Posted by Mister Maf, 21 September 2013 · 5,316 views

With the Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and now, apparently, the long-rumored Steam Box looming just over the horizon, the average system requirements for AAA PC games is about to spike. Whether you're looking stay in the game, or just need to update an old toaster, right now is a great time to look at a new PC build.

The new consoles are going to be based on existing technology from Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD). Their Piledriver-based processors and Graphics Core Next-based video cards have been around for a little while, and their prices have adjusted southward over time accordingly. With that in mind, the computer I will present to you will be AMD-powered.

Features:
  • Small case. At only 16.4 inches tall, it's no handheld LAN party box, but as far as gaming computers go, this isn't big by any stretch of the imagination. How can this be a good thing? With Valve's Steam Box release, expect to see much more controller support for big games. Fit this in your living room next to the television stand and fire up Steam's Big Picture Mode.
  • 1080p gaming with the HD 7790. This little monster of a GPU uses a slightly modified version of the GCN 2.0 architecture that powers the rest of the 7000 series and the next consoles. The results speak for themselves.
  • Trusted brands in the hardware industry. You won't find any knockoff or cheaply-made products inside this machine. It's all the real deal.
  • DirectX 11.2 with Windows 8. I know, I know, Windows 8 is the scourge of the devil, but it's the future, whether we like it or not. Previous iterations of Windows are being intentionally locked out of the newest graphical features, so 8 is the way to go from here on out. Besides, it boots faster.
  • The price is right. A new Xbox One will run you $500, then $60 every year to play online, and you can't even use it for anything except what Microsoft says you can use it for. This isn't just a gaming machine, but it's your computer, too. A two-in-one wombo-combo-deal powerhouse for under $700. Factor in frequent and fantastic discounts on digitally-distributed games, and this is a long-term, low-cost investment. Additionally, there will be sales later in the year - namely, holiday sales - that will knock down the price of this or a comparable build considerably.
  • Upgrade flexibility - AMD makes a point of backwards-compatibility in their processors, so the AM3+ socket used by the FX-6300 is sure to fit new processors later down the line.  A respectably strong power supply also allows for graphics upgrades as requirements rise.
So, are you ready to hear what this girl's got in her? Here she is:

Processor
AMD FX-6300 @ 3.5 GHz - $120
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This hex-core CPU isn't the most powerful thing on the market, but for its price, it does its job. The X1/PS4 both have a high number of cores, so it's best to be prepared for the multicore optimizations that are sure to come. For most games, the graphical processor (GPU) is more important than the CPU, so this is more than enough.

Graphics Card
PowerColor AX7790 1 GB - $120 - $20 MIR = $100
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This little guy is the centerpiece of this build. At an incredibly low $100, the HD 7790 can run Battlefield 3 at 1080p and ultra settings WITH antialiasing at an average of 53 frames per second. Check out the benchmarks here.

Memory
Corsair 8 GB DDR3 @ 1333 MHz - $70
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There's not much to say about this one. It's RAM, it's 8 gigabytes, it runs at 1333 megahertz. You don't need any fancy heat spreaders or other whatsits that make it look pretty. If you don't plan on overclocking your RAM, this is literally all you need. It's the same amount as is in the X1 and the PS4, and it's what I've used for years. Note that the price for the time being is driven up because of a major manufacturing plant burning down.

Hard Drive
Western Digital Blue 750 GB, 7200 RPM, 6.0 GB/s - $80
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Pretty stock and solid stuff, here. It's not quite a terabyte, but unless you download a lot of HD pornography, it should be plenty. It has all of today's standard features of a relatively high-end traditional disk drive.

Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 - $110
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Eight USB 2.0 ports and two USB 3.0 ports in the back and Realtek audio along with a PCIe 2.0 x16 expansion card slot for maximum bandwidth for your graphics card makes this a pretty easy option to take at this price. Just don't try to overclock on it; budget boards can't always handle the voltage.

Power Supply
Thermaltake SMART Series, 650W, 80+ Bronze - $60
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I've said it a hundred times and I'll say it some more: having a quality power supply with adequate voltage and wattage is essential for the health, safety, and normal operation of your computer. Thermaltake is, relatively speaking, new to the PSU market, but they've had enough time to work out the kinks. At 650 watts with 80%+ efficiency certification, this fits the bill. The CPU is rated for 95W and the GPU uses 250W under load, so there is a safe amount of headroom.

CPU Fan
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 - $20 - $5 MIR = 15
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Simple, time-tested. It's popular for a good reason: it works and it doesn't cost a lot.

Case
DIYPC FM08-W - $23
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Granted, this case squeezes in with a heavy discount, but it's a solid one. One can easily get by with a case that goes for $20 normal price, but why should you? This guy has front USB and audio ports and dust-filtered case fans for air flow (very important in small setups). Unanimous love in purchase reviews. Its small size for a mid tower case helps it fit into the living room hooked up to an Xbox controller for those who wish to use it that way.

Operating System
Windows 8 Home 64-bit - OEM copy - $96
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Check out that 2.5 stars user rating. It's no secret that Windows 8 isn't very popular, but moving forward, it's the platform that Microsoft will be updating DirectX (the suite of multimedia APIs that games run on) on.

Optional
  • DVD R/W drive - $20 - growing less and less relevant these days, but you can grab one with your HD 7790's mail-in rebate.
  • Hold out on Windows 8 - $91 - save a couple bucks now by getting Windows 7 instead while you wait for Microsoft to release a proper operating system.
And there she is, weighing in at $674, including the MIRs and not counting the options. If you happen to have a copy of Windows lying around, and perhaps re-use an old hard drive, you can get the system down to under $500. Again, keep in mind: most of these items are not on sale right now, and will be on sale at a later date, namely December.

Additionally, the price of RAM has been driven up dramatically lately due to a fire burning down a major manufacturer plant in China. Once normal operation resumes, expect to see the prices on memory lower back to sane levels. Even still, powerful computers are more affordable than ever. Take another look at the HD 7790's review to prove it if you need to, because it's the biggest indicator of how this machine will run: http://www.anandtech...top-sea-islands

I hope you found this writeup useful, informative, inspirational, and/or some other positive reaction. Thanks for reading.

-Mister Maf, resident BattleStrats hardware head




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Great stuff, but I gotta admit I hate your video card selection. For a "BF4-Ready" machine, that thing is woefully underpowered.

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Great stuff, but I gotta admit I hate your video card selection. For a "BF4-Ready" machine, that thing is woefully underpowered.

I didn't say "run it at super mega max grafix on 4k monitors". It should handle the game on medium at the least, probably a bit more.  Don't underestimate the 7790.

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Great stuff, but I gotta admit I hate your video card selection. For a "BF4-Ready" machine, that thing is woefully underpowered.

I didn't say "run it at super mega max grafix on 4k monitors". It should handle the game on medium at the least, probably a bit more.  Don't underestimate the 7790.

And I'm not saying get a Titan, you are building a "Budget Box" to compete with upcoming consoles. I just think for another $25-$50, you can get a 7850 with 2GB and a 256-bit bus to give a boost to some demanding future titles like BF4.

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